Zotonic
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Thursday, 2 May 2013< ^ >
arjan has set the subject to: Zotonic - the Erlang Content Management Framework
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[09:20:58] <yashshah> Andreas Stenius, Good morning :)
[09:21:11] <Andreas Stenius> Morning Yash :)
[09:22:02] <yashshah> So yeah first of all, i want to know why do we want caching system? I think Dropbox, Google Drive servers are fast enough to process our requests
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[13:01:45] <Marc Worrell> Hi yashhah, I was thinking of the caching system because typically a file is needed a couple of times. For example when generating previews of different sizes or when it is a new (or popular) download on a web site. In those cases it is good for latency and traffic (costs/bandwidth) to have the file locally available.
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[14:21:46] <z-bot> [kaos] ok, we're up and running again..
[14:22:00] <z-bot> [kaos] time to get this ting onto a proper server...
[14:22:06] <z-bot> [kaos] thing*
[14:31:33] z-bot [yashshah] welcomes z-bot again :)
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[15:31:09] <z-bot> [yashshah_] kaos: i have updated my proposal on melange with updated timeline.
[15:35:00] <z-bot> [yashshah_] Please review it and give your comments on it :)
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[15:44:46] <yashshah> Hi Marc, I totally get your point. I also discussed about this with Andreas. Don't you think there should be some threshold on file size if it should be stored in the cache or not? I don't know about the Zotonic's server, but i think when file is large, serving the file fast (Dropbox/Google Drive server) might overide network costs ( latency ). Also, it will save space on our servers. For small size files, it will be very essential to cache them.
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[16:22:47] <z-bot> /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.9.1/bin/erl[28]: exec: /usr/local/lib/erlang/erts-5.9.1/bin/erlexec: not found
[16:24:07] <z-bot> [kaos] /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.9.1/bin/erl[28]: exec: /usr/local/lib/erlang/erts-5.9.1/bin/erlexec: not found
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[16:24:41] <Andreas Stenius> oops. :p
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[16:30:36] <z-bot> arjan has set the subject to: Zotonic - the Erlang Content Management Framework
[16:32:03] <z-bot> [kaos] hello, I write in Swedish, in # zotonic-en on freenode.net
[16:32:48] <Andreas Stenius> heh, oops. It translated a bit too much there... it was #zotonic-sv, but apart from that it looks rather good :D
[16:32:48] <z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] heh, oops. It translated a bit too much there... it was #zotonic-sv, but apart from that it looks rather good :D
[16:33:03] <Andreas Stenius> hmm, and I got some echo too, it seems..
[16:33:03] <z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] hmm, and I got some echo too, it seems..
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[16:36:17] <z-bot> arjan has set the subject to: Zotonic - the Erlang Content Management Framework
[16:36:43] <Andreas Stenius> echo?
[16:36:43] <z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] echo?
[16:36:46] <Andreas Stenius> bah
[16:36:46] <z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] bah
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[16:43:04] <Andreas Stenius> now, then. config updated.. I hope it works better
[16:46:15] <z-bot> [kaos] but this might work .. ?
[16:47:03] <z-bot> [kaos] Ah, ok. so the translation channels will arrive. So well then .. : P
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[16:55:55] <z-bot> [kaos] ok, this time, I hope we get this over to the jabber side..
[16:56:23] <Andreas Stenius> ah, nice, and even the translations worked :)
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[16:57:29] <z-bot> [kaos] ingen eko, det ser ut att fungera åt båda hållen nu. Härligt (från den svenska kanalen nu.. )
[16:57:30] <z-bot> [kaos] no echo, it seems to work both ways now. Beautiful (from the Swedish channel now ..)
[16:59:35] <Andreas Stenius> Just to give you a hint about what I'm babbling about, this is from the dutch channel:
<z-bot> [kaos] ok, dit keer, ik hoop dat we dit over aan de jabber kant ..
<z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] ah, mooi, en zelfs de vertalingen gewerkt :)
<z-bot> [kaos] geen echo, het lijkt nu te werken in beide richtingen. Mooi (van de Zweedse zender nu ..)
[17:01:20] <z-bot> [kaos] Hehe... "kabbelende", what a funny word :p
[17:02:31] <Andreas Stenius> Ok, so for those that want to spice up you chat experience with some google translations can now connect to #zotonic-nl or #zotonic-sv on freenode.net :)
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[17:10:54] <z-bot> [kaos] there, had to disconnect z-bot from the language specific channels in order to register them..
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[18:00:02] <z-bot> [yashshah_] kaos: ping
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[19:02:35] <z-bot> [kaos] yashshah_, pang
[19:04:36] <z-bot> [yashshah_] kaos: Please review my proposal. I have updated the timeline
[19:04:47] <z-bot> [kaos] ok, will do :)
[19:04:52] <z-bot> [yashshah_] thanks :)
[19:05:21] <z-bot> [yashshah_] Do we need to follow proposal template exactly?
[19:05:50] <z-bot> [kaos] no I don't think so, not to the letter any way.. why?
[19:05:51] <z-bot> [yashshah_] I have covered all the topics mentioned in the proposal template
[19:06:02] <z-bot> [yashshah_] but not in the same order
[19:06:22] <z-bot> [kaos] ah, no, that should be fine, I think
[19:06:29] <z-bot> [yashshah_] okay, thanks :)
[19:06:52] <z-bot> [yashshah_] Please do comment on my proposal after reviewing, still we have 24 hours to make changes if required :)
[19:12:16] <Arjan> yashshah: where is it?
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[19:12:28] <z-bot> [kaos] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/review/google/gsoc2013/yashshah/22001
[19:12:54] <Arjan> tx
[19:13:07] <Arjan> oh, This proposal is not made public, and you are not the student who submitted the proposal, nor are you a mentor for the organization it was submitted to.
[19:13:10] <Arjan> :P
[19:13:13] <z-bot> [kaos] btw, check out #zootnic-nl on freenode ;)
[19:13:33] <z-bot> [kaos] register and ask to become mentor for BEAM community
[19:14:08] <z-bot> [kaos] ah, wait, I could also forward a email version of it to you...
[19:14:14] <Arjan> :)
[19:14:21] <Arjan> id like to become a mentor though
[19:14:37] <z-bot> [kaos] yeah, you should :p
[19:14:50] <z-bot> [kaos] until that is done, though...
[19:15:51] <z-bot> [kaos] Google suggests that there's backup mentors too, in case of emergencies, vacations and the like..
[19:16:31] <z-bot> [kaos] yashshah_, I think the timeline looks ok.
[19:17:04] <z-bot> [kaos] I wonder a tad bit about the bullet "Test the File Service API" though..
[19:17:20] <z-bot> [kaos] as it comes rather late, and is mentioned as a single bullet..
[19:17:36] <z-bot> [kaos] I would think that testing would be an ongoing activity as the features are developed..
[19:19:34] <z-bot> [yashshah_] Well yeah testing will be an ongoing activity, but at that time, i will do testing on all the features together
[19:20:09] <z-bot> [yashshah_] but yeah, like you said, i will make that change
[19:23:57] <yashshah> Arjan, can you see my proposal now?
[19:24:06] <Arjan> yup Im reading it
[19:24:15] <Arjan> looks good!
[19:24:26] <Arjan> it is a pretty big project..
[19:24:27] <yashshah> Thank you :)
[19:24:52] <Arjan> it also touches on the way we store files right now, right?
[19:25:10] <Arjan> so the current system of storing local files would also be modularized?
[19:25:11] <yashshah> yeah
[19:25:32] <Arjan> cool
[19:25:34] <yashshah> i will study it in detail and if required, we may need to modularized it
[19:25:39] <yashshah> yeah, even after GSoC there will lots of stuffs to develop and maintain
[19:25:44] <z-bot> [kaos] Arjan, I sent you the proposal for the zmr integration by Mawuli now, too..
[19:25:49] <Arjan> and preview / thumbnail rendering
[19:25:59] <Arjan> yeah I already read that one
[19:26:01] <Arjan> at least, last week
[19:26:07] <z-bot> [kaos] ah, ok
[19:35:10] <Arjan> Andreas Stenius: did you add autocompletion to zotonic-tpl-mode?
[19:35:23] <Arjan> I only see it now :)
[19:35:28] <Andreas Stenius> not auto complete yet, only auto close :p
[19:35:31] <Arjan> I only restart my emacs every other week :)
[19:35:37] <Andreas Stenius> heh
[19:35:38] <Arjan> :)
[19:35:43] <Arjan> spotted one bug though :)
[19:35:48] <Andreas Stenius> oh? :)
[19:35:54] <Arjan> it completes wrong when there is a self-enclosed element
[19:35:57] <Arjan> like <input />
[19:36:03] <Andreas Stenius> doh.
[19:36:05] <Arjan> :P
[19:36:10] <Arjan> minor detail
[19:36:13] <Andreas Stenius> I had that in mind, but forgot to test it
[19:36:13] <Arjan> works great otherwise!!
[19:36:25] <Andreas Stenius> :D
[19:36:45] <Andreas Stenius> what do you think of this google translate channel stuff.. ?
[19:36:59] <Andreas Stenius> doesn't always translate that well, though :/
[19:37:41] <Andreas Stenius> like this:
<z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] wat denk je van deze google translate kanaal stuff .. ?
<z-bot> [Andreas Stenius] niet altijd vertaalt dat ook, hoewel :/
but I've no idea how bad it is.. :p
[19:38:20] <Andreas Stenius> but it's rather nice as it's done in real time.. ;)
[19:53:27] <Arjan> heh
[19:53:33] <Arjan> it's a bit too much of a gimmick for me :P
[19:54:41] <Arjan> hmm doesnt IRC have message history?
[19:55:22] <z-bot> [acscherp] o mijn god
[19:55:23] <z-bot> [acscherp] oh my god
[19:55:26] <z-bot> [acscherp] :)
[19:55:27] <z-bot> [acscherp] :)
[19:55:28] <z-bot> [acscherp] werkt
[19:55:29] <z-bot> [acscherp] works
[19:59:23] <Arjan> New bounce dialog - http://stick.im/s/BGh
[20:48:37] <Arjan> we should get Zotonic in here - http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r4
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[21:57:47] <Andreas Stenius> Arjan: first, nice dialog, and stick.im service, didn't know that one :)
[21:57:55] <Arjan> :)
[21:58:05] <Andreas Stenius> second, we should indeed have zotonic on the techempower benchmarks :)
[21:58:06] <Arjan> I'm shamelessly pluging it everywhere :P
[21:58:14] <Andreas Stenius> spotted elli in there, too ;)
[21:58:17] <Arjan> I created the stick.im thing in a few hours
[21:58:21] <Arjan> nice
[21:58:50] <Andreas Stenius> oh, good. I missed the built with zotonic and view source links in the corner!
[21:58:55] <Arjan> :P
[21:59:05] <Andreas Stenius> god*
[21:59:08] <Arjan> didn't want to make it too obvious :)
[21:59:18] <Andreas Stenius> real slick! :D
[22:00:56] <Andreas Stenius> about the translation stuff, I don't expect too many from Europe to use it, but I think there may be a case for it for someone from far far away that isn't comfortable enough to make themselves understood in English..
[22:01:29] <Andreas Stenius> apart from that, it was a fun test with bot filters.. :p
[22:02:22] <Arjan> :)
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[23:43:10] <Andreas Stenius> Arjan: I fixed the <input /> bug ;)
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