Wednesday, 12 December 2012< ^ >
arjan has set the subject to: Zotonic - the Erlang Content Management Framework
Room Configuration

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[09:01:56] <Andreas Stenius> andreas.stenius is a dead connection...
[09:02:40] <Andreas Stenius> hmmm... somewhat. I think google is keeping it alive, even though I don't have a client connected on the other end of it.. . bah :p
[09:33:25] <Andreas Stenius> wouldn't it be cool if we could have predicates in a hierarchy, much like the categories?
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[11:33:01] <Andreas Stenius> there, now I've got a new jabber id to connect from that hopefully will be a bit better than google talk :p
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[11:33:37] <Andreas Stenius> hah, cool. Now I (the old I) got kicked
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[12:26:39] <Arjan> Andreas Stenius: addressed #309
[12:27:24] <Arjan> maybe you can check if it's fixed
[12:27:29] <Arjan> for me it works now with the HTML button
[13:29:23] <Andreas Stenius> ok, looking into it...
[14:07:40] <Andreas Stenius> Arjan: what was it with sRGB (or something) and convert? with my version of convert, the demo pictures from the blog skel looks quite weird now...
[14:08:35] <Andreas Stenius> I closed #309 btw, as it looks ok now.
[14:11:30] <Marc Worrell> @andrea: CMYK?
[14:12:23] <Andreas Stenius> yeah, could be. I've not looked into it, I just noticed the pics got strange colors
[14:12:44] <Arjan> http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20501
[14:12:51] <Andreas Stenius> and rememberd that there was some change in the args to convert recently...
[14:12:52] <Arjan> I think it is a change in imagemagick
[14:13:20] <Arjan> https://github.com/zotonic/zotonic/commit/aa366c33127923971c98eea947ba8a2aadce637b
[14:14:33] <Andreas Stenius> ah, right. I even checked them on that very same machine. So no, not the sRGB thing then...
[14:14:54] <Andreas Stenius> and it's not darker, it's more like inverted
[14:16:22] <Andreas Stenius> see if this link works: https://photos-2.dropbox.com/i/l/pHMATAsp2vTAirCyxK47nZ9N30Mvz4gC1vZxpyPb8Ww/74386038/1355407200/b9766dd/welcome.jpe%28597x597%29%285E8F8DBE59683FFF70A5E086473F914B%29.jpg#2
[14:17:32] <maas.maarten.zeeman> some browsers are color managed nowadays. so if the image has a profile you don't need to convert it first.
[14:17:41] <maas.maarten.zeeman> but that one looks weird.
[14:18:03] <Andreas Stenius> yep - not quite inverted either... not sure what has gotten into it :p
[14:19:31] <maas.maarten.zeeman> http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html
[14:21:59] <Marc Worrell> You really need to convert CMYK images, so colorspace RGB is good for that.
[14:23:29] <maas.maarten.zeeman> :-) encode - decode that's what IT is all about.
[14:23:36] <Andreas Stenius> hmm... maybe I should go back and look at the image I checked for arjan again but in a browser this time...
[14:24:21] <Andreas Stenius> ok, I'll leave it for now. we should keep an eye on it though. Could be that older versions of image magik doesn't do too well...
[14:28:31] <Marc Worrell> @andreas nice colors
[14:29:10] <Marc Worrell> @andreas color space of that image is sRGB
do you have the original image?
[14:29:48] <Andreas Stenius> yeah, it's the one that comes with the blog skeleton
[14:32:23] <Andreas Stenius> hmm... I wonder if it matters that it added the image first, and had issues with generating the thumbs (due to my version not supporting -layers flatten), and when I got that fixed, it looked like this.
[14:32:23] <Andreas Stenius> I'll flush the db and start over, see if it still comes out whacky looking...
[14:32:52] <Marc Worrell> it is kind of artistic :p
[14:33:20] <Andreas Stenius> heh :p
[14:34:35] <Andreas Stenius> hmm... doesn't the logon adhere to the p argument any more?
[14:35:03] <maas.maarten.zeeman> original image is also sRGB
[14:35:40] <Andreas Stenius> nope, previews still funky looking
[14:35:40] <Andreas Stenius> oh, sorry, artistic :p
[14:37:14] <Andreas Stenius> ok, so the original looks fine, even if I download it. But the previews do not.
[14:43:35] <Arjan> Andreas Stenius: I had exactly the opposite of this before I applied this fix
[14:43:39] <Arjan> "fix"
[14:44:07] <Arjan> which version if Imagemagick do you have?
[14:44:36] <Andreas Stenius> https://github.com/zotonic/zotonic/commit/aa366c33127923971c98eea947ba8a2aadce637b#commitcomment-2144161
[14:44:54] <Andreas Stenius> aka  6.3.4 06/06/12 Q16 :p
[14:45:01] <Arjan> tx
[14:45:16] <Arjan> I have 6.7.7
[14:46:08] <Andreas Stenius> funny thing is this is the same version I used when I tested your fix, and it looked good then (but I didn't look at the result in a browser, if that would matter... ?)
[14:46:30] <Arjan> dunno
[14:46:42] <Andreas Stenius> I'll revert your fix and see if it solves it.
[14:46:57] <Andreas Stenius> if so, it might be worth having a check for which version of image magick is in use.
[14:47:06] <Arjan> yeah :-/
[14:47:15] <Andreas Stenius> I already have a patched branch to get rid of -layers flatten on that machine... :p
[14:47:52] <Andreas Stenius> but, alas, the time is running out, I've got kids to pick up at 15:00.
[14:47:56] <Arjan> k
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[14:47:59] <Arjan> I god a meeting
[14:48:02] <Arjan> *got
[14:48:04] <Arjan> laters!
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[15:37:24] <Andreas Stenius> ok, reverting https://github.com/zotonic/zotonic/commit/aa366c33127923971c98eea947ba8a2aadce637b solved the colors... strange.
[15:44:05] <Andreas Stenius> this feels like an image magik bug.
[16:02:47] <maas.maarten.zeeman> ja daar kunnen we niks aan doen.
[16:02:54] <maas.maarten.zeeman> sorry
[16:03:10] <Andreas Stenius> I got it :)
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[16:03:32] <Andreas Stenius> yes, we can't do anything about that... (my guess)
[16:03:32] <maas.maarten.zeeman> wrong chat window. luckily not my password screen
[16:03:50] <Andreas Stenius> oh, but it worked here, too :p
[16:04:18] <Andreas Stenius> yeah, you'd have to change password then...
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[16:13:25] <Andreas Stenius> hey, Arjan, are you using the new tpl mode now? (is it working?)
[16:13:44] <Andreas Stenius> I've not embarked on any real work using it yet...
[16:17:23] <Arjan> I did not switch yet, I think
[16:26:17] <Andreas Stenius> lol, you think... :p
[16:29:22] <Arjan> well I added it to auto-modes-alist but it still uses nxml-mode
[16:29:59] <Andreas Stenius> if you get the files from a saved desktop file, you'd have to revert the file since the mode is saved along with the desktop...
[16:30:18] <Andreas Stenius> (or simply switch mode by M-x <mode>)
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[17:06:28] <maas.maarten.zeeman> using websockets on networks with high packet loss is really painful.
[17:06:42] <maas.maarten.zeeman> and then high is around 1%
[17:14:10] <maas.maarten.zeeman> When will zotonic have support for webrtc :-p
[17:15:39] <Andreas Stenius> that would be a cool feat to add.. :)
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[17:19:52] <maas.maarten.zeeman> erlyvideo has rtp/rtsp support.. hmm...
[17:21:56] <maas.maarten.zeeman> That would allow one to build really cool multi-player games.
[17:23:26] <maas.maarten.zeeman> bleeding edge of course.
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[17:24:05] <Marc Worrell> yep
[17:24:16] <Marc Worrell> GPL - but you can just make it into a module
[17:24:28] <maas.maarten.zeeman> hmm
[17:55:57] <maas.maarten.zeeman> looks like a nice implementation.
[17:58:08] <maas.maarten.zeeman> not one bleeding edge, but a lot of them. ms moving into different direction
[17:58:43] <maas.maarten.zeeman> nice christmas hacking project though
[17:59:00] <Andreas Stenius> are you talking about erlyvideo?
[18:16:18] <maas.maarten.zeeman> zotonic + erlyvideo's rtp - hook it too webrtc beta chrome
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[19:37:24] <Marc Worrell> :-) using mogrify to make jpegs at maxclass smaller by setting the quality of really big jpegs to 70 instead of the original 98. Already 40GB saved :-)
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[20:35:01] <Andreas Stenius> hehe... sounds like you have quite a lot of pictures there...
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[21:51:31] <Marc Worrell> maybe useful: http://xmas.sitepoint.com/?utm_source=sp&utm_medium=email&utm_term=day6&utm_campaign=2012spxmas#day/3
[21:51:36] <Marc Worrell> (be quick)
[21:52:48] <Andreas Stenius> what is it?
[22:01:19] <Marc Worrell> some free stuff like a book, icons, etc
[22:01:43] <Marc Worrell> sitepoint has often this kind of actions - to attract customers
[22:01:53] <Marc Worrell> there are also some books on sale
[22:04:37] <Arjan> cool
[22:07:51] <Marc Worrell> for the next hour downloadable
[22:08:16] <Andreas Stenius> hmm... error generating pdf... (with download instructions)
[22:08:28] <Marc Worrell> I have one - shall I mail it?
[22:08:40] <Marc Worrell> Just got the download :p
[22:09:04] <Andreas Stenius> sure, why not (if the instructions aren't personal)
[22:09:18] <Marc Worrell> on their way, also to AS
[22:09:32] <Andreas Stenius> k :)
[22:28:06] <Arjan> just merged a big polish translation commit :D
[22:28:18] <Arjan> polish is now the best translated language, it seems :)
[22:28:41] <Arjan> (when looking at the translation status page)
[22:29:44] <Marc Worrell> yeah!
[22:29:53] <Marc Worrell> Poland here we come :-)
[22:30:21] <Arjan> learned some new git skills in the process..
[22:30:21] <Marc Worrell> Is that a good market? Guess we also need Russian and Chinese :p
[22:34:14] <Marc Worrell> you Git Wizard!
[22:36:07] <Arjan> I'll give you the highlights:
987 git co -b polish-479 aniou/master
988 git rebase master
989 git co aniou/master -- modules/mod_survey/translations/pl.po
991 git rebase --continue
994 git co master
996 git merge --squash --no-commit --edit polish-479
1008 git commit --author=Piotr
[22:36:08] <Arjan> :P
[22:37:15] <Marc Worrell> rebase —magic-continue-with-what-i-mean-you-can-do-it
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